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I was searching for a new truck, and was very interested in a 2015+ F150 due to the aluminum body, and the Michigan winters that eat car bodies. Drove the lot on an evening when they were closed, and saw 4 in a 2015+ F150 due to the aluminum body, and the Michigan winters that eat car bodies. Drove the lot on an evening when they were closed, and saw 4 trucks I was interested in. So I called the dealership, told them the 4 trucks I was interested in, and setup an appointment for a Saturday. No I assumed that since I had made contact, and provided my shortlist of trucks, that they would provide me more details on the 4 of interest. Went in the morning to meet my assigned salesperson Louie. Nice enough guy, seemed reasonable. Told him about my shortlist... He had no idea what I was talking about. Nobody bothered to fill him in on the list. So we walked the lot, and I pointed out the 4 I was interested in. Of the 4, he could only find the keys for 1 of them, and it was #4 on my list. I really wasn't interested in that one due to the higher mileage. Fine, I'll test it anyways. Test drove a 2017 F150 XLT, and while it drove fine, the mileage and price point seemed a little skewed to the expensive side (78,000 miles). Told him I was more interested in the White 2017 F150 XLT with only 11,000 miles that he could not find the keys for. Told him to call me back when they find the keys. I am contacted back on Tuesday (why not Monday?) and told the white one was actually sold, and they sold it on Saturday. Hmmm... I was there at 10:05 right after they opened. I'm pretty sure it wasn't bought in the 5 minutes they were open. I wasn't allowed to test drive it, but someone else who came in after me was able to get the keys, drive and buy. Frustrated, I moved on to another day to test some more on my list. A gorgeous Bronze Fire 2015 F150 Lariat w/ 33,000 was pick #2. Well, they couldn't find the keys for that one either on Saturday, but by Tuesday they had them. Louie calls me and tells me the keys are on his desk. Had some scheduling problems and couldn't get there until the afternoon. I call just before getting there, and Louie has left for a personal appointment (Hey we all have lives to live). No problem, I figure the keys are there, I'll just come test it anyways. Try to get keys. Sales Manager (Liam) tells me the truck is in service and not available. Don't bother coming by. OK... but I just talked to Louie 4 hours ago who said he had the keys. Thought that was strange. So later in the afternoon I decided to go by anyways. Met Louie, and told him about the call with Liam. He was astounded that I was told NOT to come by. Yeah... me too! Anyways, I'll chock this up to a miscommunication. It happens. No big. But I am starting to feel like cattle put through the gates to slaughter... Like their time is more valuable than mine. Test drove the F150 Lariat Bronze Fire. NICE TRUCK! But, it pulled a little to the right, especially under braking condition. Visual inspection showed some paint adhesion issues on the hood (I can overlook that) and dry rotted tires that were a mm away from the wear bars. Yeah, it needs tires. Asking price on the Lariat is $31,750. CarFAX report shows that this little gem has been a dealer lot queen for 18 months. Been through 3 other dealers and nobody can seem to move it. So it gets passed from dealer to dealer. Sounds like if I needed to dump it, I would have a hard time selling. So I made a reasonable offer $30K++ (++ is plus taxes and doc fees) if they put new tires on it. Seems like a huge discount to ask for, but let's face it, the dealer pays wholesale for the tires. Probably $500 instead of the $850 I would have to pay. Here's where it gets interesting. Louie takes my offer to Liam. While I am sitting waiting for a response, another sales associate is having a blistering argument with a customer on speakerphone. She is upset about some issues with a car she bought. Running poorly and brake failure. The sales associate tells her that the backing plate came loose from the brakes (that's the metal plate that holds all the drum brake parts in place), and that they won't fix it because its not a safety issue. NOT A SAFETY ISSUE!?!?! I'm pretty sure that poor girl almost got into a wreck because she had no brakes. I'm listening to this argument go on, and I'm definitely getting the feeling that these guys don't give a rats xxx about their customers. Once they have your money, you're on your own, and get lost if you have any concerns. Well, Louie comes back with an answer from the sales manager, Liam. The price is $31,750++ and they ain't doing the tires. No counter offer, no chance to establish some common ground, nothing. Louie looks about as rejected as I do. This guy is trying to make a living, but the sales manager is the type that won't compromise. So in short... Liam did a disservice to his company, his sales associate, and lost the trust of a potential repeat customer.. I would NEVER give this dealership anymore of my time, and certainly not my money. I did buy a 2019 RAM 1500 Lone Star (30K mi) from another dealership 2 days later. <--- See Liam, you missed out. I also bought the wife a new Rav4 <--- Liam, you missed out again!!!! More

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Such a great experiance My wife and I had been looking for a quality used vehicle for several weeks. We dealt with several rude sales people along the way. Louie Stoll, was My wife and I had been looking for a quality used vehicle for several weeks. We dealt with several rude sales people along the way. Louie Stoll, was nothing but kind, helpful and worked with us to get everything we wanted. From the moment we walked in the door to the time we left we were treated like old friends. Jeff Huvaere was also great to work with an introduced himself when he discovered we were both from Grosse Pointe. We would highly recommend Louie and the team at Suburban Ford of Waterford. More

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Louie for the win! We went in with our big ideas that didnt quite work out. Patiently waiting there was Louie . He helped us realize what was the best route for us to We went in with our big ideas that didnt quite work out. Patiently waiting there was Louie . He helped us realize what was the best route for us to take , all while making us feel like family members. I can't possibly thank his efforts and patience enough. If you want a genuine person to work with and not just someone pushing you into any car , Louie Stoll is the man who really made it a great experience. More

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Horrible Experience Horrible customer service, dishonest employees, shady management, untrustworthy, no follow up, “Take the money and run” business model. My husband Horrible customer service, dishonest employees, shady management, untrustworthy, no follow up, “Take the money and run” business model. My husband contacted Suburban Ford about a car he was interested in. He was connected to a salesman named Louie who said the car was available for purchase, so my husband and I drove over 200 miles from Cleveland, Ohio with a check in hand to purchase the car. On our way we attempted to call Louie 3 times, and he failed to answer any of our calls. Finally, two hours into the trip we got a hold of the dealership and spoke to Don, one of the managers, who informed us that he just sold the car because he was “getting more money out of another customer”, and that they operate on a “first come first serve basis, and pay more attention to customers in front of them than the customers over the phone”. Essentially, my husband and I drove almost all the way to Waterford, Michigan for nothing, and were not offered any solution. It is clear that neither Louie nor Don respect or appreciate their customers, seeing that they just ripped off the customer who ended up buying the car for more than what it was worth. It is obvious that Suburban Ford operates on a ”take the money and run” business model. Luckily, there are plenty of other Ford dealerships around who respect their potential customers and wont rip them off – I will be taking my check to those other dealerships. I would advise not getting involved with this dishonest and disrespectful dealership. More

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Shocked Used Car Buyer If you are thinking about buying a used car from Suburban Ford of Waterford, just don't.They say "We work tirelessly to maintain a selection of yest If you are thinking about buying a used car from Suburban Ford of Waterford, just don't.They say "We work tirelessly to maintain a selection of yesteryear's brightest Ford gems, ensuring you drive off in a used car that saves you money and performs admirably, no matter where in Waterford MI, West Bloomfield, Auburn Hills, Pontiac MI or Commerce Township you take it". That's a crock. They don't ensure anything unless you pay for the expensive extended warranty. I was told by Don Marotta "if it starts, moves, and stops we put it on the lot". He also said that I should expect there to be issues with a high mileage vehicle (we got a Ford Explorer with 122,900 miles). Just 10 days after our purchase I took the Explorer we bought to a shop I trust for a safety inspection and found it had a leaking radiator and bad front differential. So the car they sold me did not "save me money and perform admirably". It cost me $1,300 to get into safe condition to drive. Don says I bought as is. True, but I expected better buying from one of the biggest and "best" dealer networks in the state, but I was sorely mistaken. I won't be going back. They don't inspect their used cars before selling them, so you can expect to have problems almost immediately. They don't stand behind the cars they put on their lot. Please share this with your friends and relatives so they don't go through the same scam I did. More

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incompetent service department Bought 2015 transit needed spare tire holder fixed they ordered part a week later I came in 90 minutes later they told me they got the wrong part orde Bought 2015 transit needed spare tire holder fixed they ordered part a week later I came in 90 minutes later they told me they got the wrong part ordered it again a week later I came back 1 hour later told me it was wrong part again said they would order it it's been several weeks they have not called me i called and left message with service man I'd been working with a week later still no call I will never work with this dealership again and I hope anyone reading this thinks twice before using suburban ford More

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Ignored and Forgotten I never write these kinds of reviews, but I have to because I have NEVER experienced such HORRIBLE customer service. I hope no one is or will be treat I never write these kinds of reviews, but I have to because I have NEVER experienced such HORRIBLE customer service. I hope no one is or will be treated the way I have been at Suburban Ford of Waterford. I purchased a Ford Edge from Mr. Stoll over a month ago and was promised a new valance because the current one was dented and falling off on one side. A week later, I called Mr. Stoll to check the status of the valance that was ordered and he told me that the Service Dept. said it would have to be a used valance. I was fine with that as long as it was in good condition. Weeks pass and I try to get a hold of Mr. Stoll, calling and leaving voicemails with no reply back. Finally, three weeks later, I decide to call the Used Car Manager, Don Marotta, to see if I can get some help from someone higher up. When Mr. Marotta did not call me back after leaving a voicemail, I decided to drive 40 MINUTES to sit in front of him and make sure something got done. He took down my name and number and told me it would be delivered by the following Monday or Tuesday. Monday and Tuesday pass....no call.... Finally, I call back on Thursday. He told me he would call me THAT NIGHT. You guessed it... no call. Does someone really have to work THIS HARD to get something so simple replaced?! I just want what I was promised, but it's obvious that I (a paying customer) am not that important in their eyes. I've left my name and number with too many people at Suburban Ford of Waterford and I know those scrap papers are sitting at the bottom of their piles or tossed aside. I should have taken the other reviews on Mr. Stoll more seriously. No respect, no service, BIG MISTAKE. More

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New Escape lease Tom Tatu went above and beyond my expectations to find the right vehicle and make a smooth transition to turning in my lease and signing a new one for Tom Tatu went above and beyond my expectations to find the right vehicle and make a smooth transition to turning in my lease and signing a new one for a 2016 Escape. Tom is friendly, helpful and professional and a pleasure to work with. I highly recommend Tom for your vehicle needs! More

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Great Help! I was in a jam with my car falling apart pretty rapidly. I avoided the dealerships because i thought it would be a huge ordeal, it was not and i wish I was in a jam with my car falling apart pretty rapidly. I avoided the dealerships because i thought it would be a huge ordeal, it was not and i wish i would have gone in sooner. Lou at Suburban Ford were lifesavers! Super friendly and straight forward. They worked hard to get me the type of vehicle i wanted with only my terrible car tradein as a first payment. Highly recommend this dealership. More

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Worst Service Experience Ever!!! I have already posted a review on your Facebook page but would like to continue the saga of my purchase/service experience. I recently bought a 2011 I have already posted a review on your Facebook page but would like to continue the saga of my purchase/service experience. I recently bought a 2011 F250 from your used car lot. Louie was my sales man and he and your sales team were great. It wasn't until I was told that the vehicle was serviced recently and certified that I became angry. I bought the truck on March 25th. When we purchased the truck the check engine light was on and the salesman (Louie) said that he would have the service team take care of it. Which apparently meant reset the computer so the light will go out. So we purchased the truck thinking all was great and took it home with us. After having the truck home for less than 3 days it stated to stall out when stopping along with the check engine light being on again. So I called Louie my salesman and explained the situation. Louie made arrangements for my husband to bring the vehicle out to them. Mind you this is an hour drive for us to the dealership and this is the only vehicle my family owns. So my husband took the truck out to the dealer on the Monday after Easter and had it checked out. After being there for more than 3 hours we were told it was bad gas and to just to run the tank out and put new in and it would correct the issue. So we took the service guy for face value. So we brought the truck home and ran the gas out and filled it. The problem continues. In further investigation of the truck we found that the oil dip stick had been snapped off and the dip stick tub pinched shut. If you service a truck shouldn't you have noticed this prior to my purchase? So I call Louie again for the stalling issue, check engine light and now the dip stick issue! Louie made arrangements yet again for the truck to be in the shop. This time they wanted to keep the vehicle and we were told we would get a loaner. So my husband took the truck out yet again....another 45 minute drive. He arrives with my 2 year old in tow only to sit in a waiting room for 4 hours waiting for someone to get him a rental car. Once I finally made a call to John Vitale was he able to get a rental. Which mind you we had to put a deposit on when the dealer said they would cover cost! The service dept had my truck for almost 2 weeks before we got it back. They replaced almost $5000 worth of parts trying to figure out the issue surrounding the truck. They also for some unknown reason put 700 miles on the truck. I understand test runs but 700 miles for test runs is a bit extreme. Finally we get the truck back and have it for a few days when the check engine light comes back on again. So I call Dave in service, since he was my contact last time, to tell him yet again to get my truck in for the same issue. Dave said bring the truck out we will get you a loaner again. So my husband with my 2 year in tow yet again makes the 45 min drive out again. This time to get a loaner car that is so small I can't legally put my 3 children safely in the back seat in their car seats. We were told that a bigger car was not covered by them! So now my truck is back in for repair for the 3rd time and I'm waiting on a response as to what is wrong with my truck. You would think that if you spend over $20000 on a vehicle that you would not have this many issues in the first month of ownership. The worst part is my first payment was due today and the dealer has had the truck more than I have during this first month! More

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