Ourisman Fairfax Toyota

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Manufacturer: Toyota
Ourisman Fairfax Toyota
10441 Lee Hwy
Fairfax, Virginia 22030
(703)359-1010

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mazmi
9/21/2007 10:57:14 AM

Reason for Visit: Service

I recommend this dealer: No

My Review of Ourisman Fairfax Toyota:
The check engine light on my Toyota Sienna came on. I took the van to a Sunoco gas station near my house. They checked the computer and diagnosed that the oxygen sensors were defective. I asked them to fix it. I left the van there overnight. They replaced the front sensors and told me that they could not get the other sensor out. They did not have the proper tools to do the job.

I took the van to Fairfax Toyota and explained what happened (third day). The first thing I heard "big Money". I asked how big. The sales man said “big big big .” On top of all, they had to do their own diagnosis which was another $115.00, otherwise they would not accept the job. The salesman told me that it may not be the oxygen sensor, and could be other things..., and kept repeating "big money". I asked them to do the diagnostic testing and give me a repair estimate before fixing it. I left the van there overnight. The next day (4th day) I received a call from Fairfax Toyota. I was told that the exhaust manifold was cracked, the oxygen sensor was damaged, and there may be other problems as well. I asked how much was the damage? I was told: “a minimum of $1,800.00 for replacing the one manifold, installing a new oxygen sensor and resetting the computer”.

I called the Sunoco gas station and asked them if the manifold was cracked. I was told: “no way a cracked manifold makes a loud noise and your van did not make any noise”. The gas station mechanic told me that the dealer’s mechanic did not know what he was talking about.’ I asked the mechanic how much did it cost to replace the manifold. I was told by the mechanic around $100 to $200 for the manifold and $20 to $50 for washers, other parts and $200 for replacement, $500 max (without the oxygen sensor, which is an additional $210).

Since I did not trust the gas station and Fairfax Toyota, I started calling around. All other dealerships in the northen Virginia gave me a quote for doing the same job between $700 and $900. Two dealerships service representatives in Alexandria and Arlington told me that they could salvage the manifold and it may cost less to fix the van.

Then, I called Fairfax Toyota and talked to the dealership service manager and asked him why it costed so much to replace a manifold. I asked for a break down of cost. He said the parts are around $300 to $500 and the repair costs $1,200 to $1,500. He said that it was a very tough job.


At any rate, I took my van in the same evening from Fairfax Toyota, paid the $115 for diagnosis, and took it to Alexandria Toyota (25 miles away from my house) because it was close to my work (4th day). Mr. Elliot Abascal, (703) 778-3808, one of the service representatives at Alexandria Toyota took care of the problem. The next day (5th day) Mr. Abascal called me and stated that they salvaged the manifold. I only paid around $530.00 for the job. I picked up the van and the engine light is gone. I concluded that Mr. Abascal was a very honest man and I strongly recommend his services.

I would like to urge all Toyota owners to check the rates at other dealerships before doing business with Ourisman Fairfax Toyota.

I was planning to buy a new car from Ourisman Fairfax Toyota. In fact I had discussed it with one of their sales representatives and had tentatively come to an agreement. But now I have decided not to do any business with Ourisman Toyota, even though they are only 1.5 miles from my house. Also, I called the service manager (Joe .. ) and asked for reimbursement for their incorrect diagnosis of the problem, the manifold was not cracked. They are so dishonest that they did not write that the manifold was cracked, they only referred to the fused oxygen sensor and their repair cost estimate which was even $50 higher than their initial estimate of $1,800. They wanted $1,850.00 for a $550 job. It took my 5 days and three repair shops to fix a small problem.

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DaCubanSkillz
9/5/2006 10:30:11 PM

Reason for Visit: Sales

I recommend this dealer: No

My Review of Ourisman Fairfax Toyota:
I went to this dealership over the Labor Day weekend. I was looking for a new car due to my back issues and plus...I wanted a new car. I was greeted by Mr. Shah as soon as I drove in. He showed me the Toyota Camry which is what I was looking for. He showed me the two that were on the lot and asked if I was interested. I explained my what I was looking for in payments and what not.

I walk to his desk, he takes my info and goes off to speak to his manager. He comes back to tell me something 35.00 more than what I said I wouldnt' pay. Fine, I told him "Thank you" and I left. I drove to Koons Tyson's Toyota to speak to a friend of a friend. He took my information, ran my credit and told me what I was looking at. He even broke it down for me word for word, number for number. Something Ourisman did not do. They just threw a number at me.

I told the salesman that I would return because I would think about it. The next day (Monday, 9-4-06), I get a phone call from Mr. Shah who said he spoke to his manager about me and that his manager said "he spoke to toyota" about my history with them (2 loans with them) and that he can do a deal for me. And this time its for what I asked for.

I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt. I took my current cars paperwork in and they said I had to cancel my extended warrenty, prepaid maintenance program and gap insurance. This would lower my payoff and can be completed in 2-3 days. However, I was advised by two different people at a different dealership that it would take 1 month. I then told the manager "thi" (sp) that how can he garentee me a monthly amount without running my credit. He said he was basing it off the APR I had on my paper work. (strike 1..i was told he spoke to toyota). I then say fine, I'll cancel the things asked of and when I asked for his offer in writing, he got upset and got loud saying he wouldn't write anything down and that I can do whatever I want with my money. That if we wanted a deal we had to take his word. (strike 2).

Mr. Shah said he would write on a business card what was offered and under what conditions. I said fine. On my drive to Lustine to cancel my coverage, I had time to think about things and after my wife asking me 20x's if I was okay, I said, "they have one more shot". I get to lustine and I spoke to someone there and that finance manager told me it would take 1 month to get the refunds. This is the third person to tell me the same thing. I then call Mr. Shah and he said that he thought it was 2-3 days and that his manager (Thi) would know more about it, and to call him instead. At that point I gave up on them and said forget it once I hung up.

I left Lustine and did not cancel anything. I went to Koons Tyson's Toyota and made my purchase that day. To top things off, they made me a better offer then Ourisman and with real customer service.

All in all, stay away from these people. Not sure what type of crooked things they were trying to do, but they were not trying to help me.

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OrangeBlossom
9/5/2006 1:44:29 PM

Reason for Visit: Sales

I recommend this dealer: No

My Review of Ourisman Fairfax Toyota:
I previously wrote a glowing review of this dealership. Our family has purchased a number of Toyotas from them over the course of close to 20+ years, 2 loaded Camry Solara SLE V6s just in the past year.

This past Labor Day weekend totally changed my view of this dealership and its personnel. We were trying to purchase a 2007 Camry XLE. While the salesman, whom we have pleasantly worked with in the past, started out okay, it quickly became apparent that he was trying to get me to "settle" for a car that wasn't quite what I wanted...tellling me that it would be fine and that I would be happy with it. And the sales manager who seems so pleasant in passing rigidly controlled the purchasing process, making it most unpleasant. I'm appalled.

In the past, the dealership tried hard to search around and find the vehicle we wanted. This time, the dealership was absolutely terrible. When I asked them to search, they really didn't want to. I asked them to search mid-Atlantic for a car; they only ran northern VA. Then they baulked...first saying they didn't want to call, then saying the car wasn't available, and then saying they would charge me the destination fee if I didn't buy one of their in-stock vehicles. The salesman indicated that I might have better luck trying to search around for a vehicle for them to obtain. Then, when I did find a vehicle...and the real, this-is-what-you-pay price at the new dealership was $2000-2500 LESS than the Ourisman price, they absolutely refused to get the vehicle and told me I'd have to buy it myself at the other place. To boot, the new dealership gave me more in trade!

The dealership we ultimately bought the car at was Jack Taylor's Alexandria Toyota. The salesman was their Internet guy, Jim Brotherton. He was pleasant to work with and didn't play any games. And, the price we paid was the Internet price and was not jerked around one iota. What a relief!

I cannot tell you how disappointed my family is with Ourisman. If they treat long-standing customers so discourteously (and we bought two $30,000+ cars from them in the past year), imagine how well they would treat the typical car buyer. Perhaps, Ourisman has gotten too big for its britches because it's located in the heart of affluent Fairfax County and has lots of traffic, while Alexandria Toyota -- though also in Fairfax County and close to Washington, DC --seemed to be a little out of the way. Well, if you want to be treated fairly and pleasantly, Alexandria Toyota's your place to buy.

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irbidj
12/8/2005 2:07:49 AM

Reason for Visit: Sales

I recommend this dealer: No

My Review of Ourisman Fairfax Toyota:
I am a faculty member at George Mason University, which is in close proximity to this dealership. Our family bought 5 cars from this dealership in the last 10 years. We were pleased with them until our last visit. We went in to buy a new RAV-4. The sales consultants and managers we usually deal with have all but left, no doubt an indication of the deteriorating standards of this dealership! And well these new guys don't know anything and are not well trained at all.

The main problem we had was on the price, they had given us a FINAL price which we were told included tax, tags etc. only to find out 4 hours later, that there were hidden charges that jacked up the price by 1150$!! We of course were totally shocked. I guessed maybe they thought if they made us hang out long enough they could sweet talk us into paying more or something!!

The manager William (Billy) Brown eventually came and talked to us, he was unresponsive though and very rude! I can't believe they would put someone like him in charge of a sales team! The only thing that guy should and could manage is a lemonade stand!

In closing, stay away from these guys; they are out to make money, pure and simple! They will lie, cheat and do whatever it takes to get you to sign on the dotted line! BEWARE!!

Go to Carmax instead, no haggle no fuss. Just my two cents, take it or leave it.


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OrangeBlossom
10/19/2005 11:19:37 AM

Reason for Visit: Service

I recommend this dealer: Yes

My Review of Ourisman Fairfax Toyota:
My family loves this dealership. We have purchased at least 5 vehicles from them over the course of about 20 years, and had all of our service work done there. The service consultants are all terrific people to deal with as is the service manager. Two examples: (1) Recently, my Camry XLE battery went dead. When my car was towed to the dealership, the service guy actually volunteered that the entire repair was under warranty. (2) Not long ago, I brought my car in thinking it needed brake work. The service rep told me that it really didn't need it yet...then he described to me the thresholds used to determine whether front or back brakes need work. Since my family was about to embark on a long road trip, I questioned his assessment. With a smile, he told me that he was giving me the same advice he would have given his family and that he wouldn't put us in danger any more than he would put his own family in danger. I feel safe with this dealership. All the guys know us by name and greet us warmly. I couldn't recommend a dealership more highly.

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Ms_Johnson
11/10/2004 7:06:01 AM

Reason for Visit: Service

I recommend this dealer: No

My Review of Ourisman Fairfax Toyota:
My new Prius had sudden loss of power, lots of lights come on. I pulled over, looked up all the lights--manual says Do Not Drive. So got car towed to Chantilly (b/c Fairfax rude and dismissive). Towing company was highlight of experience--nice and professional. Asst Service Mgr Kevin was rude to other customers on phone while I waited, as well as complaining to me about his lazy coworkers, his long hours, and how that upset his wife. Fine, he could have been having a bad day.... <br><br>But... their Prius technician took 8 hours (&amp; a 2nd opinion) to diagnose that I had run out of gas. I knew the tank was 1/8th, was looking for the low fuel light, but had not seen it when I stopped the car. I looked up EVERY light that was on when I stopped, had seen that light on a previous tank, AND was waiting for it (I am female, I would like to know how urgent it is when the fuel light comes on so when I'm out in a strange place I can choose where to refuel safely).<br><br>Despite following manual's instructions (Do Not Drive if these lights are on), Chantilly Toyota charged me for the tow. The Serv. Mgr. Mike was patronizing, arrogant, rude, chauvinistic, and as bad at customer service as his employee. He had the nerve to photocopy the manual about filling the gas tank and attached that to my bill.<br><br>Nothing in the manual says that catastrophic lights will come on if the car is out of gas. Their OWN technician took 8 hours, by their own admission. I knew the tank was low, but without the warning fuel light, I did not expect it to be empty. They claim the fuel light was on when they got the car. That might be true! But if it was, it came on AFTER all the other lights. From my experience in customer service and troubleshooting, I ALWAYS perform the &quot;idiot&quot; checks in the early stages of troubleshooting--things can happen, cords can get unplugged, a setting can be wrong, etc. I understand that. This dealership obviously does not.

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Mr___John
3/28/2004 6:05:53 PM

Reason for Visit: Sales

I recommend this dealer: No

My Review of Ourisman Fairfax Toyota:
I would not recomend this dealership for sales or service. <br><br>Saleman not familiar with their cars. My car was sold to me with factory installed parts missing. <br><br>The car was delivered dirty to me at purchase.<br><br>The compartment below the shifter will not stay shut when something is placed in it. Repaired and replaced but not fixed.<br><br>The car after service was again delivered dirty. The guys who clean the car seem to be always washing and cleaning their personal cars instead of doing a good job of cleaning the customers cars.

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