Bill Kay Honda

I wanted to get a quote through from them through a classified ad on ebay, for a 2010 Honda Civic DX-VP Sedan Automatic. Its regular MSRP is $17,915, and its regular invoice is 16,565, however Honda is classified ad on ebay, for a 2010 Honda Civic DX-VP Sedan Automatic. Its regular MSRP is $17,915, and its regular invoice is 16,565, however Honda is currently running a $650 incentive. The way the salesman wrote was immediately insulting and dishonest. No greeting, goes right into "I think you are smart enough to know our advertised price is dealer invoice, what we pay for this vehicle. Can't sell it for less than what we pay for it. That is the selling price plus all applicable fees and taxes." This statement is immediately insulting, because he is suggesting I am "not smart" for offering less than invoice, and also a double-lie because 1) dealers do make profits below invoice (if they really didn't, then they would not sell cars even at invoice price, and the legal fine print on many car adds tells you that they can make profits besides price minus invoice) and 2) he is also lying about invoice, which is $15,915 at the moment because of a $650 incentive he wants to keep for himself, invoice = 16,565-650= $15,915. So I told him that Ed Napleton Honda in Oak Lawn sent out an email offering $2,000 below MSRP on Civic Sedans, which for this model would be $17,915-2,000 = $15,915 (the same number we got by subtracting 650 from invoice) and that I had gotten a quote from O'hare Honda through the Drive your Dream autobuying program on carbuyingtips for $15,887. So he replies "why didn't you buy it then?". Again an insulting way to talk to a customer; this statement either means I am lying or it means go buy it there. So i replied that I didn't buy it yet because "I am shopping around for the best price", so he sticks to his lie and says "I'm always amazed at how much people not in the business know more than those of us who are. If you are smart enough to know, then you know it's not good business to sell for less than what you pay for the item. Buy two and sell, me one." sticking to his lie about what the car costs him, and continuing his insulting "you are smart enough" talk.. Needless to say, I never found out what the fees are(pure dealer profit) , but I bet they tag on hundreds more with them. More